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New SRW (?) to be revealed in December
(12-11-2017, 04:58 PM)thebigb Wrote: Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Destiny
(Alpha part)
- It will just be Shinn and the Destiny Gundam
- Seed will be treated as a sequel
- This way they the cast can explain what ZAFT is doing, post Alpha 3, this way ZAFT come out of nowhere.
- Shinn will just be an enemy unit, cause trouble for everyone and joins the gang for the final
(Gaiden)
- Shinn is just a unit in this mess
Ehhhh... How would thay make sense? If ZAFT has the tech to make Destiny even before the events of SEED, why would they need to steal the G Weapons? And more importantly, why would Shinn join ZAFT before his family died in the invasion of Orb?
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What is this about?!!!! They are making an Alpha Gaiden after all these years?!
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(03-23-2018, 03:10 PM)M-Tails-P Wrote:
(12-11-2017, 04:58 PM)thebigb Wrote: Mobile Suit Gundam Seed Destiny
(Alpha part)
- It will just be Shinn and the Destiny Gundam
- Seed will be treated as a sequel
- This way they the cast can explain what ZAFT is doing, post Alpha 3, this way ZAFT come out of nowhere.
- Shinn will just be an enemy unit, cause trouble for everyone and joins the gang for the final
(Gaiden)
- Shinn is just a unit in this mess
Ehhhh... How would thay make sense? If ZAFT has the tech to make Destiny even before the events of SEED, why would they need to steal the G Weapons? And more importantly, why would Shinn join ZAFT before his family died in the invasion of Orb?

The events of Destiny don't happen it's just series only.
Shinn would be there to explain ZAFT
Alpha Cast can explain ZAFT
ZAFT being in Alpha 3 now makes sense.

Destiny is just a prototype for the Freedom and Justice.

It was made well ahead of its time, ZAFT were unable to re-make the "GUNDAM" OS, until Orb did.
Giving them a bigger reason to steal the G-Weapons.
Once the G-Weapons were stolen they were able to creak the "GUNDAM" OS and make Freedom and Justice.
This is a just a problem for Alpha 3

Replace events of SEED with OYW and that's how Shinn joined ZAFT.
Shinn, family died during the OYW when Amuro went to Earth and killed Shinn's Family.

(03-23-2018, 07:01 PM)Vincent Wrote: What is this about?!!!! They are making an Alpha Gaiden after all these years?!

No... we are just talking about if they did a remake, how they would do it.
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(03-30-2018, 03:17 PM)thebigb Wrote: The events of Destiny don't happen it's just series only.
Shinn would be there to explain ZAFT
Alpha Cast can explain ZAFT
ZAFT being in Alpha 3 now makes sense.

Destiny is just a prototype for the Freedom and Justice.

It was made well ahead of its time, ZAFT were unable to re-make the "GUNDAM" OS, until Orb did.
Giving them a bigger reason to steal the G-Weapons.
Once the G-Weapons were stolen they were able to creak the "GUNDAM" OS and make Freedom and Justice.
This is a just a problem for Alpha 3

Replace events of SEED with OYW and that's how Shinn joined ZAFT.
Shinn, family died during the OYW when Amuro went to Earth and killed Shinn's Family.
"Destiny is just a prototype for the Freedom and Justice."
Which makes no sense because Freedom and Justice were based on the G Weapons, and Destiny is at least partially based on Freedom and Justice. Are you just going to gloss over how Destiny has about a dozen technologies that ZAFT shouldn't have at the time?

"It was made well ahead of its time, ZAFT were unable to re-make the "GUNDAM" OS, until Orb did."
Why?! What could be stopping them from copying a system that they already have?!

"Replace events of SEED with OYW and that's how Shinn joined ZAFT."
Even though Orb was literally never involved in a war until the events of SEED?

"Shinn, family died during the OYW when Amuro went to Earth and killed Shinn's Family."
Yeah, I remember that episode in the original Gundam where Amuro randomly flew to New Guinea to kill a bunch of civilians. Dude, the White Base's route throughout MSG was nowhere near where Orb was! And that's not getting into how the OYW ended early in the Alpha universe because of the Macross stuff.

Also, Destiny took place two years after SEED, while Alpha took place eight years after OYW, so yeah, there's that too.
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Fine, then Shinn is a Time Traveller from the future! Yay!!

We are talking about Alpha series were Nu Gundam was made before both Zeta and ZZ.
Also having the Gundam fighting alongside V2 Gundam.
Not to mention the Victory Gundam being made before anything in Crossbone.

I'm pretty sure we can gloss over the dozen technologies that ZAFT shouldn't have, cause we are doing the same from UC.
If we can do Victory>Crossbone we can do Destiny>Seed.

Let's go.. start with the Technology issue.

ZAFT is a just a civilian army, they made Destiny and just the Destiny and that's it.
Everything else is still the same tech in SEED.
They then used Shinn to scout what was going on during the events of Alpha, Gaiden and Alpha 2.
During this time they did nothing.

When Alpha 3 starts they start making the Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice.
Everything else is the same, just that Freedom and Justice are stronger.

After they capture (some) G-Weapons.

(Alpha 3 will be fun, with Shinn and Destiny, badmouthing Athrun and the rest of Seed-ZAFT cast.)
(Not to mention Destiny trying to take down the Archangel and Kira.)

Due to being unable to finish the SF and IJ in time
ZAFT that makes the Freedom and Justice instead.

Or the Freedom and Justice were never made. Alpha 3 plays the same just replace Freedom and Justice with Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice.

-Next is the Orb issue-

It doesn't have to be Orb.
It can be just some random city, Shinn and his family went to during a holiday.

Orb would have accepted to give the White Base aid and a battle just happened there, no a big once just one where Shinn's family dies. Afterall Orb was around during the event of Alpha and Alpha 2.

Next is Shinn's aged.

Some of the Macross aged like 20 years, in between Alpha and Alpha 3.
It doesn't even need to happen during the OYW, there were many battles during the OYW and the start of Alpha.
Mazinger Z attack on Dr. Hell for example.

After Shinn joined ZAFT during his training of the Destiny he went to Space. there is Space he was put into a cold sleep, until ZAFT needed to send him for the start of Alpha.

If you don't like that, there is always the Shinn is a Time Traveler idea.

In any case, Alpha remake with or without Seed Destiny will be awesome.
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This is making less sense... this discussion sounds like it belongs in fanfic section more than actual SRW news which is what this thread is about...
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(04-02-2018, 03:34 PM)yazi Wrote: This is making less sense... this discussion sounds like it belongs in fanfic section more than actual SRW news which is what this thread is about...

I agree.
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Yeah, this conversation has gone completely off the rails.
Also, I'm pretty sure you get Nu Gundam way after you get Z and ZZ in Alpha.
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