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Gundam IronBlooded Orphans General
#21
I posted some last episode/season impressions on ANN, might as well drop them here:

Hrrrmmrmrmrmrrrmmm.

So the drama in this episode was good, in a sense, but I think it highlighted IBO's biggest problem, one that I was worried about since early on.

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So Gaelio being betrayed by McGillis was a pretty big dramatic moment, and it worked well for what it was - and gave the impression these characters were all designed with this moment in mind from the start. That's all well and good...but they didn't feel like fully formed people beyond existing to be betrayed.

Gaelio doesn't do much at all over the course of the show. Carta was absurdly incompetent, I suppose to demonstrate the organization's incompetence on the whole, but she felt like even less of a character. "Oh btw she loved McGillis, now she's dead". Okay.

Ein was more interesting to me, but this is pretty much entirely because of his late transformation into an actual robot. He too was otherwise a one-note bore.

And that's the thing: The characters largely feel like they were set up like pins for specific moments, and were left to just twirl around until those moments came along. And by "twirl around", I mean sit there and recite platitudes and verify bits of information to each other for entire episodes until the designated robot fight episode comes along.

How could they have so much time to talk and yet end up establishing so little? That much time and yet still have so many superficially human characters? I'd thought Orga was the most interesting of the cast from the start, but by the end he's just a speech spouting loud speaker like the rest of them.

I really don't understand how this show ended up this way. It'd be a lot better if it were half the length, and even then...ehhh. I'm not really looking forward to the second season.

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#24
2nd promotional video for Iron Blooded Orphans Season 2 below. Warning spoiler alerts as it references some content from Season 1 if you have not seen it.


Link - https://youtu.be/x8tHqYrzf34

Also SPYAIR is performing the opening song and GRANRODEO will be performing the ending song "Shonen No Hate." Below is the 15 second teaser trailer taken from Lantis Youtube channel


Link - https://youtu.be/xhG-MGlHgVY


Do hope it does not suffer Gundam 2nd season or sequel syndrome like previous series and fixes some of the problems of the first series.
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#25
OK first episode aired, i didn't liked felt rushed and made little sense for what is happening now from how the 1st season ended
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#26
(10-03-2016, 09:21 AM)Mai Wrote: OK first episode aired, i didn't liked felt rushed and made little sense for what is happening now from how the 1st season ended

Isn't that to be expected after coming back from a break from season 1? 1st episode of 00 Season 2 wasn't that different from this either IMO.

But then again... this is the only other Gundam show to have a 2nd season after a break. Its kind of hard to compare to previous Gundam shows...
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#27
Well, this is getting interesting now that Gallajorn is divided mainly into two factions, the old guard, and another loyal to Fareed. Now the latter
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has formed an alliance with Tekkadan
to take on a Pirate group that's apparently strong, leading to a Mexican stand-off.

Our masked man of the series is apparently
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Gaelio
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I did enjoy the battle tactics used in this episode, and it's to see Eugene is very much good at it that he's worthy of being Tekkadan's XO.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Hush was from one of the IBO side-stories that had a Gundam thrown in, unless it's a case of mistaken identity.

It would appear as though McGillis won't be playing the main antagonist, given the situation, and will likely continue to work with Tekkadan to achieve his ambition. Tekkadan, on the other hand, would use McGillis in order to increase their fame to a point they would equal or even outdo that of Teiwaz, and the powers that be are well aware of this.

I predict that the end game for this season is for Fareed to gain full control of the Seven Stars, while Tekkadan reaches fame that outranks Teiwaz. If I'm correct, the series might proceed to a 3rd season with the three factions now going up against each other for all the marbles. This would at least allow us to see more Gundams coming from the Calamity War.
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#28
Well, it is official. The Gjallarhorn's division under McGillis Fareed has formed an alliance with Tekkadan.

After watching the first 3 episodes of the 2nd season of Iron-Blooded Orphans, I predicted that McGillis and Tekkadan would team-up as they can benefit from one another in the aftermath of the first season.

For McGillis's ambition of changing all of Gjallarhorn in his image to be realized, he must bring down the rest of the Seven Stars, and thus needs Tekkadan to do the grunt work.

For Orga, fighting the rest of the Seven Stars and beating them all will give Tekkadan such a reputation that it will dwarf even their own parent organization, Teiwaz.

Speaking of which, Orga has fully embraced his association with Teiwaz and brought out a taste of Mafia justice against the mastermind behind the attempts at Kudelia's life.

Obviously the Seven Stars and Teiwaz would give notice and see the Fareed-Tekkadan alliance as quite a threat, and we will have another three-way dance like we saw last episode and this one. It also gives credence to my other prediction that McGillis and Mikazuki won't be fighting each other for quite some time until the alliance has achieved both their goals. There isn't any point for McGillis and Orga to betray one another as they're too smart for that, and even sniff out any attempts at sabotage. So expect the Fareed-Tekkadan alliance to last probably until the end of the season, which likely may give the possibility of a 3rd season of Iron-Blooded Orphans.

To date, no Another Gundam/Alternate Universe Gundam series (G, W, X, Turn A, 00, AGE) has ever gone beyond 50 episodes. Considering Orphans is within that category, I do expect that everything will end after episode 50. But should Orphans do get a third season, it would be a milestone for a series that is not part of the established timelines, such as the Universal Century and Cosmic Era.

The newly discovered Gundam Frame will sure be coming to Shingo, while a second unit (likely a Mobile Armor) will probably go to Hush.

Kudelia (and by extension, Naze) does see that Tekkdan's advances will cause more problems than not. So efforts have to be made to reduce the likelihood of giving Tekkadan more enemies that may cause its downfall.

I've enjoyed the first season of Iron-Blooded Orphans, and this season has not disappointed me so far. So I am giving it high marks and still one of my favorite Gundam series. Looking forward to the next arc.
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#29
So who's been keepin' up?

I had to force myself to catch up this past weekend. The previous arc was painfully slow and predictable.

But, this last episode was pretty good, although I'm sort of wary what direction things will go in. It throws a wrench into the whole multi-faction in-fighting scenario, but it's one of those things that could just as well oversimplify everything by the end. I suppose we'll see.

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Also I guess SRW has a new go-to Generic Regenerating Boss 'n Infinite Minions Applicable Regardless of Storylines.

About Masked Guy Number II...

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I still maintain Not Garma, Carta, and to some extent Ein were boring one-note characters for the duration of their existence in season 1. But at this point, only Carta is left out in terms of going through all that shit for no reason but to prove a point. So I wonder, with the implication that Gundam Badguy might have Ein in there somewhere, if perhaps they'll round out the Dead Friends Trilogy and do something batshit like make Vidar actually Carta in Gaelio's body or something. I still think it doesn't excuse their poor characterization before, but it'd at least be interesting.
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#30
I'm keeping up with it, loving the show, it's breaking some of the tired conventions that previous Gundam shows have done to death, and now we can add the lack of beam weapons to that too, at least on the mobile suits side that is, they in part hint why we don't see beam weapons.

1. Only Mobile Armors have them.
2. Nano-laminate armor, which all mobile suits have, is made to resist/take beam attacks and suffer very little or no damage.
3. Beam weapons on mobile suits would be useless, hence the projectile weapons (close range) and melee weapons are very effective.

Its refreshing to see a Gundam show that isn't about shooting beams everywhere... Seed/Destiny/00 have done it to death especially.... Plus.... the brutal melee combat is amazing to see too. We also get to see different style melee combat cause unlike beam sabers which are almost all the same, physical melee weapons differ in many ways, hence the combat doctrine is different on that end too.
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